Sunday, June 11, 2017

Truth and reality: the quest begins


“There is something truer and more real, than what we can see with the eyes, and touch with the finger.” 
― Nathaniel HawthorneRappaccini's Daughter



And there's the challenge: where to find truth and reality. 
Today I have an idea about where I should begin (resume) my quest: the Bible. 

Stay tuned for future postings, comments, and questions about my discoveries.

I bet you have something to say. Well?


20 comments:

  1. That's one of Buddhism's most important tenets, Tim: we should seek truth. I think it's fascinating that you're going on that journey.

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    1. Margot, well, it's a long overdue beginning (again). "In the beginning......." Ah, the beginning is a puzzle.

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  2. I suspect we can get in the way of truth by seeking it. It may be better to met ourselves simply be open to it.

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    1. Well, yes, Frank, but I am compelled to seek answers. Passivity has not helped me. The truth is out there somewhere. The trick involves avoiding windmills and other foolish encounters. Is the quest an impossible dream? I hope not.

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  3. Truth and Reality? You'll find them in Physics and Higher Mathematics. What you do with them when you find them... Well, that's a whole other ball of wax.

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    1. And what truth and reality serve as foundation for physics and mathematics?

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    2. Physics & Mathematics *are* the foundation.

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    3. CyberKitten, I guess I need to learn and know more about P and M. I am, after all, an open minded searcher. There are many roads to the truth. Right?

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    4. There are an infinite number of roads.... Where each of them end....? Now there's a question!

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  4. i get into trouble when this comes up... so, you should do what you think is right...

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    1. Mudpuddle and CyberKitten, this is a book blog, and the Bible is a book, so why not participate on that level if other levels are not your cup of tea. The more the merrier.

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    2. Tim: You asked - And there's the challenge: where to find truth and reality.

      I simply gave my opinion. Nothing more.

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    3. i didn't give mine, because it doesn't fit...

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    4. Well, I do hope you will continue to visit and comment. I promise not to evangelize, I promise not to be a one note songbird, and I promise detours into other books and authors. All opinions fit and are encouraged.

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    5. well, i'm on CK's plate; except that math and physics describe reality as we know it: they represent a language that has been formed through centuries of intense effort and the exercise of extraordinary genius-literally the best of humankind... in depicting the earth we live on and the cosmos we are finding out about... scientific experimentation is not belief; it is a search for truth, using the best tools we have been able to invent...
      religion and the bible, strictly imo, you understand, are not based on effort or industry but are the creation of imagination and thus originate from inside the human head: no measuring, no research, just what someone sometime imagined... and 90% of the time expressive of political desires on the behalf of one individual or group of individuals...
      so, imo, the choice is between the piece of pie i have in my hand, or the whole pie in my imagination... to put it coloquially...
      personally i'm Zen oriented. Zen is not a religion, but a way of understanding reality through concentrated use of the senses; i got into it through writing Haiku, which requires the use of said intensity...
      tx for putting up the question and permitting my response...

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  5. Tim,

    You asked above: "And what truth and reality serve as foundation for physics and mathematics?"

    I ask: "And what truth and reality serve as foundation for the Bible?"

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    1. It is the literary record of a culture trying to understand its place in the cosmos. Note that I ascribe no theological value in that assertion. True?

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  6. Note to all: I appreciate everyone's candor. I will keep my spiritual quest private and this blog secular. Okay?

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  7. My two cents: I just think you need to clarify what it is you seek and make some progress in that search. Human beings are satisfied more by choosing and setting goals and making progress--the path forward can be thrilling and satisfying.

    And you shouldn't let the opinions of any commenter here determine what you will or won't do. Because choosing by yourself is part of setting the goal, whether it's to master the works of Hawthorne or to grapple with some particular road that points toward transcendent values.

    Of course, that's just my two cents, so maybe you should ignore it as well.

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    1. Marly, I value your "two cents" as much more valuable than you might imagine. Thank you for your friendship and good words. My quest continues, but I will go silently in my own way; the blog will be restricted to other matters. I think that is the better road to travel. Again, as always, I value your visits and words very, very much. Thank you.

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